11.08 Database Errors Thread

[TheMoonUnitExperience]

Lets add him to the list of opener-all rounders then:

Shane Watson - Aus
Tillakaratne Dilshan - SL
Sanath Jayasuriya - SL
Chris Gayle - WI
Virender Sehwag - Ind
Mohammad Hafeez - Pak
Tom Smith - Eng
Rory Hamilton-Brown - Eng
Arul Suppiah - Eng
Chris Nash - Eng

Have I forgotten anyone?

Darren Maddy, occasionally opens and was a originally an opener.

[Alrounder80]

131 international wickets?
261 total wickets?

Sachin Tendulkar has 200 international wickets but he's not an alrounder...

[Sureshot]

Wheater is way too good as well. Is it not time to change how you give people rankings? At least for the English and Australian teams where I'm sure people will be willing to rank them for you, just seems a bit odd to use such an agricultural way of getting peoples ranking of basically using their average to give them a ranking. That's how it looks like its done from the outside looking in.

Is it not possible to nerf Sri Lankan/West Indian spinners rankings by using some sort of mulitiplier when you rank them? So if they average 20 in domestic stuffe they'd be ranked as good as a test bowler who average 28-32. Based on presumption that you're simply feeding peoples averages into some sort of formula couldn't you just times their bowling averages by 1.4 or some like. Likewise for India batsmen whom bat mostly on flat pitches revise it down by 0.8 or some like.

I also think for next game player's need format specific ability and roles. I'd say it's probably a must to be honest.

The rating system is a bit more complex than that. But yeah, some slip through (and many will always be subjective, it's pretty much impossible to get player ratings right, because everyone has a different opinion) and some are clearly wrong regardless of your bias(!) and we'll work to rectify that. Should also be noted that you really need to test players over several years over several different saves.

On SL/WI spinners, that is exactly what we do, indeed it was something we nerfed more this year. Do people still think they are too good?

[Chasjs]

Sachin Tendulkar has 200 international wickets but he's not an alrounder...

Tendulkar has barely bowled in the last few years though whereas Sehwag has.

Also, Sehwag has twice as many FC wickets per FC match than Chris Nash and if he is an opener-allrounder why shouldn't Sehwag? He also has a similar ratio to that of Paul Collingwood who is actually an all rounder.

Anyway, this debate is pointless as they don't even exist in the game as it stands. I was just trying to think of a few off the top of my head to point out that it's a bit of a problem.

[Sureshot]

Yup, we know the problem exists.

Not sure I'd say Nashy is an all-rounder though. Useful a bowler as he is, he's a part-timer and not sure he bowls enough to be an all-rounder.

Not bagging him there, he's one of my favourite cricketers and a nice bloke to boot!

[Chasjs]

Yup, we know the problem exists.

Not sure I'd say Nashy is an all-rounder though. Useful a bowler as he is, he's a part-timer and not sure he bowls enough to be an all-rounder.

Not bagging him there, he's one of my favourite cricketers and a nice bloke to boot!

That's probably what I'd say, same goes for RHB really. And also why Steven Croft is a batsman, not an all-rounder.

[Chasjs]

Stuart Meaker - Is he quick enough to be RF?

[Themer]

On SL/WI spinners, that is exactly what we do, indeed it was something we nerfed more this year. Do people still think they are too good?

Fair enough on your first paragraph.

They do in my opinion, I'd like to see if anyone else agrees with me though as it might have been experiences in my game.

[ab5ides1]

On SL/WI spinners, that is exactly what we do, indeed it was something we nerfed more this year. Do people still think they are too good?

I think it's pretty good other then my previously mentioned gripe that Samaraweera takes lots of wickets when he hardly ever bowls whatsoever in real-life. He is an all-rounder in the game, but not rightly so. He used to be an all-rounder, but now he plays for Sri lanka as a batsman. Dilshan bowls ahead of him.

[TheMoonUnitExperience]

Stuart Meaker - Is he quick enough to be RF?

Yes, I've heard he is rapid and bowls 90+mph

[Chasjs]

Yes, I've heard he is rapid and bowls 90+mph

I've seen him on TV and he was 90+ but rumor is he's been clocked at 96. If true then that's rapid.

[Chewie]

Forgot another one - Brandon Hiini plays for ND now, not Canterbury(?)

Also with regards to the ratings; this is pretty subjective but for NZ, Stephen Murdoch and Dean Brownlie should be brought down a tad, while Kane Williamson and Ross Taylor should be improved.

On the bowling front, Neil Wagner should be brought down a bit, while Tim Southee and Kyle Mills should be brought up. James Franklin's bowling should also be nerfed a bit while I'm at it.

[GrahamB]

On SL/WI spinners, that is exactly what we do, indeed it was something we nerfed more this year. Do people still think they are too good?

Spinners are a little too difficult to score off in my opinion.

[morgieb]

Samaraweera's too good with the ball - he's barely bowled in 7 years yet is one of Sri Lanka's strike options. Should be a specialist bat.

[TheMoonUnitExperience]

Another bowler who shouldn't be I have just discovered: Ed Joyce. He bowled with a 12 over old ball and took a wicket! I checked his stats for the season and he has 3 at 28! Also whilst I was checking Sussex I found Yardy hasn't bowled a single over this year despite now being classed as an allrounder. I know he doesn't bowl much for his county but that is ridiculous!