Cricket Captain 2017 Database Feedback thread

[Toeknee76]

Andile Phehlukwayo should be an all rounder i feel, or if you want to leave him as a bowler his batting could do with a higher rating.
Jason Roy never gets picked for England in the game, when he does he bats at 7 or 8.

Hi Muzzy, AP is definitely and All-Rounder!!!

[Michael H]

Sri Lanka line ups are tricky because they fast track young players into the interntational team - like Kusal Mendis last year, young seamer Lahiru Kumara probably needs an ability bump to ensure he gets into interntational squads. He's currently playing against Zimbabwe and cricinfo describes him as 'one of the fastest bowlers in the SL system' so I guess he should be RMF or RF rather than RFM (I've not seen him bowl).

Changed him to RF and improved his bowling ability.

[Sureshot]

West Indies Domestic.. I selected Barbados CC for FC and OD... Selected L Simmons and Dwayne Bravo only to realize that they have both retired from Test/FC/ODI/OD.. There is no point having them in the selection mix for FC and OD. I am sure there are other such players too!

PS - I have selected a different team for T20 matches (T&T).

This has been fixed in the last patch.

[Alrounder80]

Speaking of that, Dwayne Bravo (and any other West Indian players that apply) is available for ODIs and t20s again.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindies/content/story/1111680.html

Also, why would L Simmons be retired from all formats except t20s? Pretty sure he's available for all formats irl.

[Sureshot]

New Zealand selectors confirmed Guptill will have to compete for middle order spot. He's even batting middle order domestically to get back into Test side.

Here's just one of many articles.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news...ectid=11796300

I've changed him to OD/20ovr opener only, even though he's been opening in Test/FC for now, I think from now on it looks like he's middle order in longer stuff.

[Nottsboy118]

Has there ever been any thought about including 'Left-arm Chinaman'? I guess it has never really been an issue to consider, but recently there have been a few international players bowling this...Sansakan, Shamsi and Yadav off the top of my head. Just seems strange to have them down as bowling SLA

[Sureshot]

Also Peter Handscomb (incredibly overated IMO) finished the season with 1600 runs at an average of over 100, yet when I go to view his last competitions figures for first class in England it says he only played 3 games as well as saying Root averaged 17 over 4 games when at one point he had 600 runs in 4 innings for me. Both of their stats for last year seem to be correct, but the last comp figures for the batters are all incorrect with it only saying a few of my batters played double figure games.

Handscomb is a tricky one, very strong last year, but not been doing too great so far this year. I have tweaked him down a bit.

Would be nice to see in the records what averages people achieved the highest wickets/run scores for anything post 2017 too IMO

Can you re-state this for me? I'm strugling to understand what you mean.

Would also be nice to be able to retire a batsman in friendlies to get others a chance to bat like many teams do in real warmup games.

Logged this to look at for next year.

and still very irking to see slips being used in preset 'very defensive fields' which involves some 1990s restriction methods of placing all your fielders on one side of the pitch and bowling as wide as possible which hasn't been viable for an incredibly long time now. Suggested this last year too and it was one of many things overlooked. I'm not trying to be pissy but a few of these things feel really basic and were suggested by several people in the forums last year only to, lets be nice, be low on the priorities. The players abilities do feel much more accurate this year and that is a big plus

I can't see a slip in any of the very defensive fields, one in on defensive. Bowling on middle stump looks to be 5:4 offside field on all the fields I can see as well.

Chris moved short leg out of defensive fields this year, and we're planning to move one of mid on/mid off back too. We're happy to look at fields, perhaps might warrant a separate thread.

[Sureshot]

Hi Muzzy, AP is definitely and All-Rounder!!!

Interesting, I don't agree based on what I've seen so far and his current record. He has ability with the bat (like most bowlers do now), but don't think he's good enough to be an all-rounder yet.

[Sureshot]

Speaking of that, Dwayne Bravo (and any other West Indian players that apply) is available for ODIs and t20s again.

http://www.espncricinfo.com/westindi...y/1111680.html

Also, why would L Simmons be retired from all formats except t20s? Pretty sure he's available for all formats irl.

Bravo is currently retired from Test and FC in the DB.
Gayle is retitred from FC only now. - AI will be set to not pick him for Tests for next database.

Not sure Badree is likely to play ODIs? Not played a List A game in over 4 years now.

Simmons has been changed to retired from Test/FC now, retired from Tests according to articles I've found.

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Right, I now believe I'm up to date on this, so if people can read back over my edits and report any feedback back to me that'd be great,

[Toeknee76]

Interesting, I don't agree based on what I've seen so far and his current record. He has ability with the bat (like most bowlers do now), but don't think he's good enough to be an all-rounder yet.

That's why you have players that are classified as batting all-rounders and bowling all-rounder's. It also cannot always be on records. He bats in the lower order and does not always have the opportunity for long innings with the bat. He has been selected in the test squad as an all-rounder. Records don't always clarify what is real otherwise no chance AP should have even been selected for ODI cricket. Someone like Duane Pretorius (while he is a good player) his record is skewed by the fact that a lot of his "1st class" crickets has not been against 1st tier teams.

Anyway you guys are the designers and decide how you want to allocate them. The question has to be asked then of players that have multiple 50s and even 100s. They are not showing as all rounders. Again got to ask from my earlier question about Savage, he is certainly an all-rounder so is Frylink. Those are no doubters eithers and cannot accept any explanation to them on the contrary. Maharaj while batting like a bit of a twit in tests has scored lots of runs for the dolphins. So again he should be more on the bowling all-rounder side.

Sorry none of the above is meant to come across as argumentative. Still love the game otherwise I would not have owned every version since the 1st.

[Sureshot]

Currently we don't differentiate between batting and bowling all-rounders with regards to there being specific difference in player types. We generally use an FC bat average of 25 to determine if a bowler falls in to the AR category, though we will weigh recent seasons more heavily for that, etc. It's not a dead set number. I will also look at batting position.

Doesn't come across as argumentative at all, lots of database feedback will be subjective and I'm very happy to discuss anything on this. The more information people give me the better, especially when comparing to existing players in the game who you think are good, I've always liked that comparison.

As of right now Phehlukwayo has 3 50s from 63 innings in FC/OD, I'm discounting 20 over record as he wouldn't be getting enough batting time to make it relevant to this discussion. He averages 17 with the bat from 23 innings for his franchise team in FC (a similar average in LIst A cricket for his franchise). In the recent ODI series against England he was batting at 8. He's got talent and in a year could be an all-rounder, but right now I don't think he is.

I'd agree on Savage being very close, and the closest to being an all-rounder. I'm pretty close to making him so, in fact I have just done so. Batting at 6 and 7 in FC a lot last season.

Frylinck spent a lot of FC last season batting at #9, he did pretty well with the bat last season. Averages 18.8 for FC for his franchise in 33 innings. 23 in LIst A, so he's on the cusp, and seems to prefer the shorter stuff? Though that average is boosted with 11 NOs in 39 innings.

[Michael H]

Thanks for all the updates Sureshot. A couple on the Indian team: KL Rahul is a specialist opener and therefore should be a back up keeper only - in the game he keeps for India allowing them to play an extra batsman at 7 (in real life I don't think he keeps for his state, even). Hardik Pandya needs to be upgraded to international level - he's a definite in the ODI team now and been in a few test squads (he might make his debut in the current series against SL).

Oh, and I'm not quite sure of the position of Jadeja? I've not seen him play much for India whereas in real life he's inked in to their team (ranked in ICC top 3 as a bowler, not to mention his batting and fielding).

[Sureshot]

KL Rahul is better than a PT keeper, isn't he? Just looking and he keeps quite a bit in 20 over, he also kept in OD matches in 2015/16 matches as he has several stumpings.

He's a good candidate to replace Dhoni in a couple of years?

Tweaked Pandya and Jadeja.

[muzzy]

Kevin Pietersen retires after one season, could this be fixed for the next database update please.

[Prefect]

KL Rahul is better than a PT keeper, isn't he? Just looking and he keeps quite a bit in 20 over, he also kept in OD matches in 2015/16 matches as he has several stumpings.

He's a good candidate to replace Dhoni in a couple of years?

Tweaked Pandya and Jadeja.

Eh, the thing with Rahul is that being an opener and a wicket keeper it is extremely tiring stuff. I can't think of any player who has been able to open the batting and keep in tests for a long period of time except for maybe Alec Stewart. I think Rahul might be a viable candidate for keeping in shorter formats but I just can't see him succeeding in tests - and I don't think the Indian team management want him to as he has been getting injured quite a bit lately. Maybe a suggestion could be made for limited overs wicket keepers in next years version - like players that will keep in T20 and OD but not First class. I know Kedar Jadav did quite a bit of keeping for RCB in the IPL but I haven't really heard of him keeping in FC. Same goes for Peter Handscomb - He's only really used as a back-up keeper in FC but keeps for Melbourne Stars in BBL.