New Features Discussion

[Dick Van Dykes Disco Dog]

Yep, the notes are decided on the difference between the respective pair of scores.

Also, just something I've thought now, at 2:43am (may not be correct!), but... has anyone ever seen anyone run out going for a third in this game? I can't remember that I have in hundreds of seasons all told, so whilst they would be rare anyway, it seems an unlikely coincidence! If they aren't in the game... one every few seasons would be nice!

No I haven't seen that scenario

I wanted to also point out that if the runout occurs going for the second run I don't think the batting team gets the first run.

[Imager36]

Yep, the notes are decided on the difference between the respective pair of scores.

Also, just something I've thought now, at 2:43am (may not be correct!), but... has anyone ever seen anyone run out going for a third in this game? I can't remember that I have in hundreds of seasons all told, so whilst they would be rare anyway, it seems an unlikely coincidence! If they aren't in the game... one every few seasons would be nice!

[Graham_5000]

Thanks Graham

If a players strength is off side bowling then I would guess giving them some legside practice would make sense but once a player perfects a new aspect of their batting is it ever added to their "notes" ?

You come across batsmen where no indication is shown whether they prefer legside or offside bowling

Does this mean that they have perfected both then ?

No preference for leg or off side doesn't mean they have perfected both, it just means they don't have a bias towards scoring in these areas. A bad batsman can have no preference - it just means he is equally bad at both leg and off side shots.

General technique improves all areas of batting slightly. Technique training is explained in detail somewhere on the forum so it might be worth doing a search.

[Dick Van Dykes Disco Dog]

Technique training improves a player's long term ability, whereas a net session provides a short term boost of form.

Thanks Graham

If a players strength is off side bowling then I would guess giving them some legside practice would make sense but once a player perfects a new aspect of their batting is it ever added to their "notes" ?

You come across batsmen where no indication is shown whether they prefer legside or offside bowling

Does this mean that they have perfected both then ?

[Imager36]

I thought that it was the case that general technique training worked well until about 26, while specific training worked for longer? Am I wrong, and if so, where did I get that from?!

EDIT - Found my source now, http://forum.childishdownloads.co.uk...&p=119#post119, although that's old and may have changed.

[Graham_5000]

I never use the technique training - what are the benefits as opposed to general training ?

Technique training improves a player's long term ability, whereas a net session provides a short term boost of form.

[Dick Van Dykes Disco Dog]

Technique training is only useful for players under the age of 26. I think the usefulness should be extended up to the age of 30. Many players like Jimmy Anderson, Morne Morkel, Faf du Plessis, Jonathan Trott, Nick Compton etc made great technical advances and improved control in their late 20s.

Perhaps it can be random for each player. Some players will improve technically as late as 29, 30, 31, whilst others won't improve really beyond the age of 25?

If it were random, each game would result in slightly different potential abilities for a young player.

What do you think?

I never use the technique training - what are the benefits as opposed to general training ?

[Graham_5000]

Technique training is only useful for players under the age of 26. I think the usefulness should be extended up to the age of 30. Many players like Jimmy Anderson, Morne Morkel, Faf du Plessis, Jonathan Trott, Nick Compton etc made great technical advances and improved control in their late 20s.

Perhaps it can be random for each player. Some players will improve technically as late as 29, 30, 31, whilst others won't improve really beyond the age of 25?

If it were random, each game would result in slightly different potential abilities for a young player.

What do you think?

[cricfan1]

Ricky Ponting - 48 Test wins. Now Graeme Smith - 49 Test wins, the most by any captain in the game's history.

Can we get these stats in ICC

[Graham_5000]

One thing really bugs me when managing a country and a county... When you go off to play a test and return to your county, quite often it is clear from the training screen that training sessions have not been used because a player got injured and his training slot wasn't automatically allocated to another player. The computer "assistant manager" should really sort that out for you in your absence!

More information is needed to help one select international players. International A stats need to be generated for players on the edge of potential international careers.

[Liquifier]

So, sort of like the First Impressions thread, but a bit more direct about the new features for 2012. The idea of this is to see not only what you think of the main new features, but where you 'd like to see us take them in the future.

Historical Records
Player Retirements
Series Stats (This gets split in to two sections, the selection tool side of it and the "I like everything to do with numbers" side)
Indian 20 over/Australian 20 over

Please keep this to the new features, rather than telling us what other new features you want, there will be other threads for that. We're trying to narrow down on these ones specifically, we have our own ideas on this of course, but be good to see what you think.

I love how you have clearly documented that this thread is specifically and solely about reactions and suggestions to the actually newly implemented features, and not a suggestions forum for things we, as customers, would like to see, and yet a considerable amount of the posts below are suggestions for other features for future editions.

The historical records are good, certainly necessary in such a stat-heavy game.

Player retirements, and the ability to recall their stats, is great. Would like to see perhaps a state/county/national leaderboard, like the top 10 scorers for your side, and same with bowlers. Just to filter down so you can review only those who have played for you, instead of the larger pool of players. Leaderboards, over a 20 year career, would look amazing - like Player Name, Runs, Average, S/Rate, High Score, 100s, 50s, career span. Do this for t20, FC and List A. Same for bowlers (all 3 x formats) - Player Name, Wickets, Average, Econ, S/Rate, Best Bowling, 5wi, 10wm, career span (clearly not 10wm for t20 but you get my drift).

Series stats are great, I absolutely love this feature. At the end of each series it is great to review who performed consistently well, and actively shapes my selection decisions for upcoming series.

The IPL feature is gun, I think it to be strange that seemingly the first season your batsmen get out seemingly cheaper. It may simply be that they are gaining exposure at that level, but I'm talking about overseas players with lots of experience as well. I believe you guys have addressed t20 batting. I often find that my amazing, balanced and experienced t20 side is 6/45 off 10 a LOT more than you'd expect.

Australian t20 is a great feature, I'd love the option to ONLY run as captain of one of those t20 sides, or ONLY as the state captain (i.e. captain QLD in FC and List A but not the Brisbane Heat for t20).

A substantial improvement I say. I love ICC and will buy it every year regardless, but am a very stats-obsessed person, player and fan, so the more the merrier. Moving in the right direction for sure.

[nikkoo]

i totally agree, i think it would be more interesting.

i'd also like to be able to coach field

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[kingfrankzappa]

I'll take that back. There's no maybe about it. Im in 2015 season and I currently have to lose 5 players to the Test squad. Has ruined my county season. The 20yo regen bowler who has taken less than 80 FC wkts at an ave of only 28ish was the icing on the cake.

I too have experienced this problem. In my first year captaining NSW I lost 9 players to Australia at one stage. I had factored in losing about 4-5 at the most as many of my players were current Australian players plus allowing for players in good form. But the icing on the cake was that they took not only Brad Haddin but also Peter Nevill who was my back up keeper, who hadn't played a match all year. And then to top it all off when I checked the Australian squad they'd left out Tim Paine, who was the best performing Australian keeper in my game at the time.

[burnsyboy]

i would like to see in future versions, for international teams, being able to see world cup victories for 50/50 and 20/20 in the team details page, instead of just when the world cup is actually on because you can only see that every 5 years or 2 years and for only a short period of time! cause its a big achievement! there should be some sort of trophy cabinet saying when you had won the world cup/s!

[Monk]

Is it just me or do the England selectors unfiarly target your players? They have selected 4 of my young players recently, and 3 of the are very inexperienced. Or is the AI telling me they are Test standard?

I'll take that back. There's no maybe about it. Im in 2015 season and I currently have to lose 5 players to the Test squad. Has ruined my county season. The 20yo regen bowler who has taken less than 80 FC wkts at an ave of only 28ish was the icing on the cake.