Philosophy for players of this game.

[gooch]

You must learn to lose before you learn to win, my sons. It will take you many years to gain success. During this process you will suffer many hardships. You will seek to learn from others but discover that their wisdom makes little difference for you must ultimately find your own way. You will think that you are gaining control only to discover that you have none, for the game is designed to thwart your ambitions. You will seek to learn the mysteries of the pitch and the weather only to discover that the AI batsmen laugh at clouds, relish uneven bounce and thrive on sharply turning balls bowled by international spinners. You will develop young players, nurturing them with a view to future success only to discover that they are too good for you (or anyone else) to afford their services. Many times will you work hard to establish winning situations only to discover that the AI tail-enders may have career averages in single figures but have been waiting for your team to come along to play the innings of their lives. After many, many years (and no skipping!), you may have a team worthy of you. Then, my sons, you may go online and learn to be thrashed again (and possibly insulted) by an edited team created by someone who wasn't prepared to walk the true and stony path.

Then you will be faced once again with that recurring question, the greatest mystery of all - why, oh why, do we keep playing this beguiling strumpet of a game?

I guess it must be because we just love cricket!

[Chasjs]

Agreed, although at first I thought you might be talking about following Lancs IRL.

[HamzaDGr8]

ahahahaahahahahahaa dude that is soooooooooo right

[Imager36]

Amen.

[neilwilkes]

Amen indeed.
Why do people go to all the hassle of editing?
I mean, it has to be a load of hassle - right?
and the only people they are really cheating are themselves.

Must be terrible to be so sad and have so little life that they have to edit with hex editors (I assume this is how it is done)

[TheSussexShark]

I agree with neilwilkes, its a lot or trouble for a win or two... if people are really that desperate then why not just play on easy? I think im right in saying that you have to edit the players individualy, if I had edited I think I would have fallen asleep

[dancingmongoose]

i only edit to make it more realistic AND i dont play online

[enigma]

@OP
Nicely put & I found bits of those very funny , although it doesn't seem too funny when you're actually playing the game but some of the aspects of the game definitely need a major overhaul.

Amen indeed.
Why do people go to all the hassle of editing?
I mean, it has to be a load of hassle - right?
and the only people they are really cheating are themselves.

Must be terrible to be so sad and have so little life that they have to edit with hex editors (I assume this is how it is done)

Little something about those who edit BUT don't play online and WHY do they do it, one of the reasons why we (i.e. who don't play online) go through the hassle of editing.

http://childishthings.com/forum/showpost.php?p=14550&postcount=21

I agree with neilwilkes, its a lot or trouble for a win or two... if people are really that desperate then why not just play on easy? I think im right in saying that you have to edit the players individualy, if I had edited I think I would have fallen asleep

Editing 11 players' ratings for online play wouldn't take much time to be honest & for online-cheaters, it's not just about "a win or two", I'm sure they play more than one or two matches online; they just want to boost their egos by beating everyone online & I suppose, same can be said of those who bring in teams from season 2040-50; many suggestions have been made already to eliminate online-cheating, the most potent of which I believe is restricting the online-play to the first season only & tracing ratings of players on online teams.

[gunot5827]

i agree with enigma ive seen the ratings and they really are ridiculous (especially with some SA players) but its just disappointing some people actually cheat to win..

[Scritty]

I suppose, same can be said of those who bring in teams from season 2040-50; many suggestions have been made already to eliminate online-cheating, the most potent of which I believe is restricting the online-play to the first season only & tracing ratings of players on online teams.

Playing 30 years to improve your team legitimately is not cheating.
But perhaps having a league set up ONLY for teams straight out of the box as a separate entity might be an idea.

(Don't be Worcestershire -cause despite the fact they have beaten Surrey every time they have played them this year IRL, in ICC2010 they really are awful and would struggle to beat an egg with an electric whisk)

@Chasjs I agree, though in ICC2010 Lancs are pretty good - so are Surrey for that matter. Both teams have the players, but have really underperformed IRL this year.

Scritty

[enigma]

Playing 30 years to improve your team legitimately is not cheating.
But perhaps having a league set up ONLY for teams straight out of the box as a separate entity might be an idea.

(Don't be Worcestershire -cause despite the fact they have beaten Surrey every time they have played them this year IRL, in ICC2010 they really are awful and would struggle to beat an egg with an electric whisk)

@Chasjs I agree, though in ICC2010 Lancs are pretty good - so are Surrey for that matter. Both teams have the players, but have really underperformed IRL this year.

Scritty

Re-read my post, mate, I've never said that playing 30 years into the future is cheating but just saying that the basic psychology of someone who makes a dash to 2040 to play his team online & someone who edits to cheat online is same as neither of them wants competition from other players so they kill the competitive element of the online-game in their own ways, they're just there to boost their egos by beating everone online, & restricting the online-play to first season will directly address this issue & restore competitiveness to the online-play by bringing everyone on pretty much an even keel; allowing teams from all seasons also makes it difficult to spot who's cheating & who just happens to have a good team from 2050 & that offers cheaters ample room to hide themselves.

[dancingmongoose]

Many times will you work hard to establish winning situations only to discover that the AI tail-enders may have career averages in single figures but have been waiting for your team to come along to play the innings of their lives.

its not just AI. Panesar and Collymore put on 150 for the last wicket Panesar 92 never looked like getting out until he did Collymore 62* I won the match and took me to the top of Div 2

[Imager36]

never looked like getting out until he did

One of my favourite quotes on any forum ever Good work on that partnership though, Panesar and Collymore especially aren't bad at sticking around, but that's a lotta runs

[bryce87]

Re-read my post, mate, I've never said that playing 30 years into the future is cheating but just saying that the basic psychology of someone who makes a dash to 2040 to play his team online & someone who edits to cheat online is same as neither of them wants competition from other players so they kill the competitive element of the online-game in their own ways, they're just there to boost their egos by beating everone online

ehh there is no making a dash to 2040, it is a long hard grind, and you get there by playing the game(in some cases skipping) so there is no way you can critiscize people who play to 2040 or even further as they are playing the game exactly the way the developers intended. Once you go deep in a game you get fairly attached to your team and your regen players. Infact the unrealistic original database probably deters players from wanting to use real players.

Come to think of it the best idea for a future online game would be with the addition of the IPL. Lets be honest it is well overdue, and I do belive it would not be too much extra work for the developers to add in(scheduling probably the big problem). The online game with IPL teams would surely boost sales in a big way as all the Indian fans would likely go crazy, lol.

[enigma]

ehh there is no making a dash to 2040, it is a long hard grind, and you get there by playing the game(in some cases skipping) so there is no way you can critiscize people who play to 2040 or even further as they are playing the game exactly the way the developers intended. Once you go deep in a game you get fairly attached to your team and your regen players.

I'm not criticising anyone who plays 30,40,50 years into the future but just pointing out that allowing teams from all seasons only makes for uncompetitive online-play & inadvertently, offers a cover to cheaters by making it extremely difficult to spot them. Perhaps, as someone suggested earlier, there should be 2 modes in online-play, one with "out-of-the-box-teams" & the other for teams from all seasons & if one chooses to play in "all-seasons mode" then they shouldn't whine about cheaters. I get it that online-players find it frustrating that there are cheaters out there & want to expose them but it's really annoying for everyone to see so many cheaters-threads floating around & people accusing each other of cheating & in the midst of this all, the threads raising important issues regarding improving the game get sidelined.

Infact the unrealistic original database probably deters players from wanting to use real players.

Don't know if that'll ever be fixed as the developers just don't want to talk about it. Isn't it amazing that one of the most important aspects of the game is a taboo subject! And most gamers don't even know how flawed it is.

Come to think of it the best idea for a future online game would be with the addition of the IPL. Lets be honest it is well overdue, and I do belive it would not be too much extra work for the developers to add in(scheduling probably the big problem). The online game with IPL teams would surely boost sales in a big way as all the Indian fans would likely go crazy, lol.

I could care less about whether they include IPL or not, I feel there are more important things to be fixed to further improve the game-play. As for real life, I HATE IPL & T20 in general, it's destroying the sport, I say T20-fans should leave cricket alone to the REAL cricket-fans & switch to watching baseball since all they like is a couple of hours-long brainless frenzy primarily about a ball getting smacked around; that's not cricket, cricket has always been about a contest between bat & ball, that's its uniqueness which is lately being lost due to flatter pitches & too much limited overs cricket, & the resultant drop in bowling standards; & it seems the worst is yet to come, soon 50-over cricket will be scrapped then Test cricket's integrity will be destroyed by changing the playing rules & conditions, & by adding of some stupid gimmicks, way to go greedy ICC & BCCI.