2009 Features Requests

[aus5892]

And there is obviously a majority of people who disagree. Simulators are different things for different people and from what I've seen in the thread, people want the ability to manipulate their game as they wish - whether it be making awesome players, correcting stats they disagree with or to even make historical scenarios.

I find it a touch disappointing - I've bought every ICC game and I'd prefer not t be told how to play the game. To me it seems like an excuse to release stat updates like ICC06 and Ashes Edition. If that's the case then just flat out say it instead of insulting our intelligence by saying we can "find the talented nobodies" ourselves.

Why ask for feature requests and then reject the main idea presented by everyone?

Chris is taking all the ideas into account, and with the likely addition of more leagues overseas and a lot of the other minor suggestions hopefully being implemented, this isn't just going to be a roster update.

All I'm trying to convene is that Chris is not keen to make an editor, it will take more time and he does not believe that people should have the ability to change player stats in the game, and to see the attributes, which are a lot more complex than you may think.

[G-Reb]

An editor would ruin the game. the reason you play the game is to develop the youth and make the best team possible for yourself without manipulating it

stop asking for an editor because it isnt going to happen and chris wont care if there is a majority that wants it becasue its his game to distribute and update not yours to manipulate yourself

[MarksNotts]

I totally agree, an editor with access to the ability stats would totally ruin the game, i have played ICC since the original and one of the addictive factors is finding out the abilities of your team through playing the game, besides this it would ruin the online game, with players editing and having superteams.
One thing though would be an editor with no access to ability stats, but be able to edit players roles, ie change Ealham from RFM to RMF, or change a player to from bowler to an all rounder, and to change who a player plays for, so if your team in real life changes an overseas player, you could do it in ICC.

[Yorks13]

I think this is a good idea, don't allow people to see stats because that would ruin the game but you should be able to change peoples batting preferences, as Mustard, Yuvraj Singh, Albie Morkel are all listed as defensive!!! You should also be able to change people to allrounders or batsmen e.g. Bresnan is listed as a bowler, but he is clearly an allrounder as he scores hundreds and averaged in the 80's for me in a season, also Broad is not an allrounder but if you saw his 76 at Lord's you can clearly see he is an allrounder. Why are allrounders never listed as openers??? S Watson opens for Australia but he isnt listed as one, you sshould fix this as it would be very simple. So i think you should add an editor just don't let stats be viewable just let people change aggression types and class, or you could redo all of this yourself, how did you come up with Morkel as a defensive player?????

[Knoxen]

I think with the regards to the editor that it should be down to the creator's to choose whether we have one or not. I think that it could be a good idea, and so do lots of other people, but I also think that the creators have a right to decide whether we have an editor or not.

I think that there will always be people who want one, and people who don't. SO it looks like we will all have to agree to disagree because there isn't much we can do about it.

Back to the game in hand, does anyone else know why sometimes you can bowl a side out for a really low score, instigate the follow on, and then the opposition score a massive score? I can't work that out?

[Agent47]

What the heck? Requests being rejected in a feature requests thread?

[Knoxen]

On the features front, I would like to have a breakdown of averages for test matches and against previous teams.

For instance,

As Australia against West Indies, I can see my full team's average for that series. But at the next series, I can only see the average for the whole season, rather than for that current series.

So it would be nice to have a breakdown of series' rather than the whole year.
And maybe something that would show previous form of batsman and bowlers against a team - maybe like their best statistics or something.

[Chris Child]

Editor

Hey guys - don't put words into my mouth. I have not said that an editor (or any other feature) is out of the question. I've said that in my opinion it would take a lot of the fun out of the game if it's done badly. I also said that a limited editor that allows player type changes is being considered. The whole point of this thread is to get people's opinions. There seems to be an excellent discussion going on discussing the pros and cons, which I'm reading and getting a lot of excellent feedback from.

I haven't finished reading this thread yet, but there are loads of fantastic suggestions which will all be considered.

- just noticed a point "surely you already have an editor"

No. We've never created one. The database is made from text files and C++ code.

[Chris Child]

Editor again

A couple of other points that are bugging me on this:

If we create an editor - edited teams should not be available for online play (I think we're all agreed on that). There is a big issue with this that a decent hacker would be able to edit the odd feature, find our where the change in the file is and then change it in a hex editor. Alternatively, the editor itself could be hacked to allow online play. I'd hate to see the online game ruined for any reason, as I think the community aspect of online play is one of the best things about Cricket Captain.

Being able to see player abilities might raise issues with the reeal players.

Again – this doesn’t mean no editor – it means we’ll have to be careful about what can be edited.

[Agent47]

We request the editor to make our 4 hours a day play into even more hours. Okay maybe someone should start a new thread for the editor problem. I will make my other requests here and no more editor talk from me in this thread unless I am provoked.

[Cymro]

On other games that allow database editors the game only allows the normal database that is either been updated by the games creators or the start off database. So maybe that thought could be used for the game!

Reagrding what could be edited I only think player stats should be edited (e.g. amount of runs and wickets taken) and whether they are a batsman / bowler etc
I dont think anything else should really be in contention for the database if one was to be made!

[GrahamB]

Perhaps a game editor could be provided to individual members by request through email.
Those members in return would forfeit their online playing capabilities.
Just a thought.

[Chris Child]

An editor for stats, player types and preferences only: would certainly get around my main objections in terms of game play and probably satisfy most people requirements on an editor. We'd probably have to leave batsman/bowler aggression levels out, or players could make unfair one-day teams, but other than that it seems like a good solution - unless I'm missing something obvious.

[Simbazz]

Is there anyway in which we could have a roster editor! I mean, i'd gladly give up my online priviledges just to have a proper up to date roster, with correct players with correct bat/bowl types. You guys have done a great job, but theres like 5 or 6 errors alone in the Hampshire squad!

Is there no way we could have an editor to do such a thing?

[GrahamB]

I'd like to be able to give technique coaching to a limited number of players in between tours/series when playing the international game.